chrose1201 wrote:So I have been going through this thread as I am looking for the right tone for me. This weekend at a gig the sound guy said that my guitar sounded like midrange sandpaper or something equally annoying. Now this guy was a definitely a d-bag... aside from that though it hurt because I think he's right.... I switch between an American Deluxe Strat with noiseless pups and a Jem Jr. I run it through my V3M and a Tech21 Flyrig RK5. In my band we will play smooth jazz, to disco, to Prince, to Dolly Parton, to Santana and everything in between. I was looking at ways to get a good sound from the V3M and found a review of the V3M that for me is what I have been feeling."as for the V3M, I cant recommend them. Honestly aside from the name and the similar look the amps sound nothing alike. I wanted to love the V3M as it didnt have those pesky globals but the amp has very poor sound. Some amps you struggle to find a bad tone, the V3M is the opposite. I struggled to find a good one. For a lack of better description the V3M sounds like a fart through a tubescreamer, I **** you not. A good example of the poor tone is Carvins very own demo video with kevin michael from sledd. The ONLY thing that gets that amp to have any definition and clarity is a TS type boost pedal. Without it I would have to rate it in the top 5 worst tube amps for rock and metal in recent years."
The cleans are very nice, I do not bother with Channel 1 ( I mostly use channel 2) and I hoped the RK5 would have been the answer. I returned the first RK5 because the noise was HORRIBLE, they sent me a new one and it's much better, but still I cannot get a smooth OD tone out of it. I would use my Laney 1-12" SS as it has a great tone, but I can't trust the fuses at a louder volume, and I don't even play that loud! I have never gotten the master past 4.5. I was hoping that maybe an attenuator would smooth out the tone, but now I suspect not.
All of the pros I have seen have been able to get a smooth tone and quiet from their rigs. Joe Bonamassa manages to turn town in certain passages to about a .5 in volume and it's as if its not plugged in at all! Nary a hint of noise! This problem seems to come though from the RK5, or my wah. All I want is to be able to get a smooth singing tone if you will, the likes of Clapton, Whispering a prayer, Santana Europa etc. Obviously most of the tone is in their ability, but can someone recommend a set up that will give me a quiet OD that can sing? All this talk about swapping tubes, and biasing, etc is more than I am going to do. It's a bit over my head honestly. My days of playing live are nearing a close (hopefully not too soon, but you never know) and I want to finally after all these years have something decent! Thanks for listening to my whining!
If your amp was mic'd up, try using a different speaker. I went with Cannabis Rex speakers in a ported 212, and that gave me all the low bass response I could handle. I didn't like the amp so much with Vintage 30s. Of course, the soundguy was rude, but there is a potentially fatiguing sound in the V3m, depending on the setting. I found it was particularly noticeable with the EQ-X engaged, and with a high presence level. Kinda gritty. I also swapped tubes to calm it.
The V3m *CAN* do a great OD sound if tweaked. The sounds are there. Also, Channel 2 is identical to Channel 1. The amp has a very wide range of adjustment, and is a tweaker's dream. I believe just about any sound can come out of one, though it takes time. It's not like a Fender, Marshall, or even the Legacy series...it is more of a jack.
Personally, I had a V3m, and it took a long time to dial it in. Once I did, I left it there, and tweaked the guitar side. Eventually I snagged a Legacy 3, and find that amp to give me the sound I want. If you want a singing tone, I think the L3 gives it better than the V3m, though the latter can be tweaked to sound like the former (and is how I set the amp). It's a bit easier to dial in due to being more focused in its function. However, I think its cleans are the best of the bunch, its ODs are smoother, and the lead sound is particularly excellent. It's not a modern type of high gain, though. The V3m was similar to my ISP Theta in how it could be tweaked, and how heavy a distortion it could get.
If you're not happy, give a Legacy 3 a whirl. It really is that good.