VT16 discontinued?

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Spudmunkey
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Re: VT16 discontinued?

Postby Spudmunkey » Sun Jan 01, 2017 10:16 pm

I can't guarantee it won't be cancelled, but it looks like you can still order it on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/Carvin-VT16-Vint ... arvin+vt16

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Re: VT16 discontinued?

Postby kennym9898 » Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:26 pm

I guess communication isn't ingrained in the Kiesel DNA, such as shown on the half of the family.

I'd like to thank you again Spudmunkey for pointing me to the VT16 sale. Otherwise I'd be in the same boat. As for whether the V3M will get the same sound as the VT16, having both of them. I serious doubt the V3M would get the same sound as the VT16, I'll play around with it to see if I can.

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Re: VT16 discontinued?

Postby UnexplodedCow » Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:18 pm

It's a good model, and sad to see it go. It reminded me very much of some old vintage amps I have sitting around. With a few minor mods, it's a killer little amp. I saw it competing against other micro "vintage," style amps quite well. Its one downside is the lack of effects loop. Maybe a lack of 4 ohm support (you can blame the Nomad output transformer for that), and that so many people want multi channel amps these days, it may have lost some luster.

Regarding the lack of effects loop; I use a reamping box that has an effects loop, so I can have effects where I want them, and the box has 100W power output, so it can pump up the volume from the VT16, as well as gives a line out (another thing my old model lacks).

The V3m (own one of those, too) can get pretty close, but I would say it doesn't quite have the same sound as the VT16. The Nomad probably is the best choice currently.

Now I just have to wait 50 years for people to realize how great the amps are, and then maybe sell one, and retire when I'm....90 :P

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Re: VT16 discontinued?

Postby HallwayMinstrel » Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:36 pm

Hey, I just noticed the VT50 head is out-of-stock. :shock: :lol:
2011 V3M412 - GT12's
12 SH550CE - S22's
12 VT16 Head
13 Bolt V - S60A's
13 212E 2x12 - Vintage30's Ipswich, England
13 Son's Bolt Kit
16 VT50 Head
16 TLB60 - AP11's
16 1983 X60B 60-watt 6L6, spring reverb
16 Used VT16 Combo-spring reverb

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Re: VT16 discontinued?

Postby GuitFiddle » Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:41 pm

One on Reverb right now all minty fresh for $270 (not mine).

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Re: VT16- I love both of mine- I wonder if they will replace it.

Postby MathAndBeerAndGuitar » Fri Jan 13, 2017 12:26 am

I can't imagine why they are discontinuing the VT16. Maybe for guitarist shopping at that price point, the Vintage 16 112 combo makes more sense. I bought my first 2 combos with that reason. My first was a used Music Man 65 212 combo. Amp and speakers all in one package; and at a low price. I bought my Carvin VX212 combo for the same reason: it was cheaper than buying a separate cabinet and head.
However, I now would note two things about buying a head separate from a cabinet: first,when they are separate they are easier to haul around; I've always been my own roadie and for awhile I played with a group that had a basement practice space with lots of stairs to go up and down; secondly, you are not without your complete rig if part of it needs to be repaired.

There are plenty of amps out there with the same basic blueprint: 2 12AX7s: 2 EL84s. 15-20 watts.
From Peavey: Peavey 6505MH 6505 Mini Head
Peavey CLASSIC20MH Classic 20 Mini Head
Peavey ValveKing II Micro-head
From Joyo: BEALE STREET (6V6s)
MJOLNIR (EL84s)
From Panama Guitars: Loco 15
Fuego 15
Shaman 20
From EVH: EVH 5150 III LBX - 15W Tube Head
From Orange:Orange Micro Terror 20-Watt

And many more to list, for sure.

And from more boutique like makers we can find:
Mesa:Mini Rectifier® 25
Mark Five: 25™
Dr. Z:Carmen Ghia
M12
Two Rock:Cardiff
Studio Pro (35 watts)

So, there are lots of similar amps both at low price point and a higher price. Maybe Carvin will move into the higher price point with their amps the same way they did with their VX Baltic Birch cabinets. Or they might replace the Vintage series with a hand wound series of amplifiers (that would be really Vintage). They could charge more for them then.

I like the features on my VT-16: the line out; the two parallel speaker output jacks; being able to switch from 5 watts to 16 watts . Sometimes I think I would like an effects loop but I don't know.
Its still a great amp that works for me :)

Cheers,
Timothy
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Re: VT16 discontinued?

Postby jnoel64 » Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:55 pm

It looks like the combo is still available.
http://carvinaudio.com/collections/vint ... /vintage16

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Re: VT16 discontinued?

Postby HallwayMinstrel » Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:17 pm

jnoel64 wrote:It looks like the combo is still available.
http://carvinaudio.com/collections/vint ... /vintage16


Yes, for now. Go back and read the first post, "it looks like the combo is also on its way out." Spud talked to somebody on the phone:

spud wrote:edit 2: I called, and was told that it is indeed discontinued and is no longer available to order...but also it sounds like the Vintage 16 combo is also on its way out. :(
2011 V3M412 - GT12's
12 SH550CE - S22's
12 VT16 Head
13 Bolt V - S60A's
13 212E 2x12 - Vintage30's Ipswich, England
13 Son's Bolt Kit
16 VT50 Head
16 TLB60 - AP11's
16 1983 X60B 60-watt 6L6, spring reverb
16 Used VT16 Combo-spring reverb

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Re: VT16 discontinued?

Postby brentington » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:26 am

Wowsers! Glad I got mine when I did. I hope this is not a sign of something more ominous.


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